Most celebrities who got near crypto in the early 2020s took the bag. Ben McKenzie took notes instead. The actor best known for The O.C., Southland, and Gotham has spent the last five years deep inside one of the biggest financial frauds of a generation—writing a book, testifying before the Senate Banking Committee, and now releasing a documentary called Everyone Is Lying to You for Money, which includes interviews with two CEOs who are currently in prison.

On the latest episode of VICE Culture Club, host Jackson Garrett sits down with McKenzie to walk through all of it, and the conversation is about as far from a Hollywood press junket as you can get.

The obsession started during the pandemic, when McKenzie’s economics…